FCPS Discipline Policy to be Reviewed
Decision announced at Thursday's public forum
The Fairfax County Public School Board decided unanimously Thursday night to review of the schools' disciplinary process, which could result in changes to what critics argue is a zero-tolerance policy against student misconduct. The school boar'd decisions came in the wake of a public outcry following the Jan. 20 suicide of 15-year-old Nick Stuban, a W.T. Woodson High School student who had been suspended from school.
The review was announced during a public forum, which also addressed less controversial issues such as the smoking policy on school property and a facilities planning advisory council, prior to a regularly scheduled school board meeting. Dozens of concerned parents, including Stuban's father, were in attendance, but had no ability to ask questions or make comments in that forum.
The issue of a disciplinary policy review was added to the agenda after the publication of a front-page story in Sunday’s Washington Post detailing what many felt was an overly harsh response to Stuban’s offense of purchasing a legal, synthetic compound called JWH-0118, which is banned in Fairfax County Public Schools.
After the meeting, board members expressed optimism they’d taken the first step in initiating a comprehensive review of FCPS disciplinary procedures. But many of the parents who attended the meeting were disappointed that they weren’t able to express their opinions, and were concerned that their voices wouldn’t be heard as the review process moves forward.
“We accomplished exactly what we set out to do, which was to define how we’re going to go forward in addressing the discipline issues that frankly I’ve thought have needed to be addressed for a long time,” said Daniel Storck, a board member who represents the Mount Vernon District.
The first step in the review process is for the issue to be raised at a previously scheduled work session March 14.
“The key thing is that we are going to move forward to the next step and have the thoughtful conversation where we can really examine our values as a board, and as a community, and how we expect the discipline process to work,” said Martina Hone, a board member at large who has long been a vocal advocate for a review of the county’s disciplinary process. “I think the momentum has shifted. When I used to bring up issues regarding discipline, the board members were scratching their heads, saying, ‘Why is this an issue?’ but it’s reached a state now where the vast majority of the board thinks it’s worth taking a look.”
After the March 14 work session, the board will meet again for its annual review of the Student Rights and Responsibilities policies, which lay out the disciplinary process. In May, the board expects to vote on any proposed changes to the staus quo. During the meeting, no board member uttered the words Nick Stuban, though it was clear to everyone that his suicide and the ensuing media coverage was what had precipitated the calls for a review of existing disciplinary policies.
Hone cautioned against “politicizing the tragedy” but both she and Storck acknowledged the case had touched the hearts of many in the community.
“The pain of any student is powerful and we all felt that pain … we’re all looking at this with 20/20 hindsight, and the best that we can do is what we are elected to do, which is make sure the system works for kids,” Storck said.
Although the voices of the parents were not heard at the forum, many sought out members of the media after the event to press the case for reform of the present disciplinary system, which they claimed lacks due process for accused students.
Stuban’s story hit home particularly hard for Patty Vindal of Fairfax, because she lost her husband to Lou Gehrig’s Disease, or ALS, and Stuban’s mother also suffered from the condition. Vindal was disappointed she didn’t have an opportunity to voice her opinion at the forum, but felt the strong turnout sent a message to the board that the public wants change.
“It’s a great thing that so many of us are interested in this issue now. The system needs reform, and these people need to listen to us,” she said.
The mother of a seventh-grader at Frost Middle School in Fairfax, who did not want to be identified by name, said the board shouldn’t need any more incentive to act now.
“A child just killed himself because of this experience, and this is the second time that this has happened in our community, and if that is not a resounding enough message to them that this process is punitive and excessive, then I think we have a real crisis here in Fairfax County,” she said.
Several parents were eager to tell their own stories of how their children were allegedly mistreated or given what they believed were excessive punishments for minor incidents of misconduct.
One woman’s son was reportedly suspended for three days for running across a football field during a timeout; another received the same penalty for using a cell phone in the hallway.
Caroline Hemenway founded the group Zero Tolerance Reform after her son, who is now on the dean’s list at James Madison University, was expelled from South Lakes High School five years ago for using marijuana on a band trip. She has mixed feelings about the forum.
“It’s an excellent start to addressing a very serious problem,” she said. “I’m happy they’re discussing it, I’m sick that it took two deaths for them to do it though. There is momentum for reform, but I did not hear a request for public engagement and that is absolutely critical to this process, the board cannot go forward in a vacuum all by themselves.”
Tim Taccadri, a resident of Herndon who pulled his children out of Herndon High School over concern regarding its disciplinary procedures, is not convinced a review will necessarily make the process fairer for the accused.
“In previous reviews, they’ve strengthened the rights of the school board, not the student,” he said.
Time will tell whether Nick Stuban’s suicide will result in dramatic changes to the FCPS disciplinary process, but clearly his story has already served to galvanize public interest in the issue.
FFX County Resident
2:36 pm on Friday, February 25, 2011
Zero tolernace means just that. No matter what the offense, zero means zero. If cells phone are not permitted, then punish the accused, of course once tried and ruling has been recorded. But what I don't get here is the true story behind a tragic loss. The young man bought a legal substance, which mimics the effects of a illegal substance. He knows not to bring the BANNED substance into school, and he got caught. So what now, let him off the hook? Zero means zero. But if the young man was a good as everyone says he was, then why on earth would he seek out a substance that could harm him, or even kill him. Was he depressed, closer family issues, girlfriend relationship? Who knows, and that's between his family and him, but the point is, he should (he probably did) have known better than to turn down the wrong path and obtain the substance in the first place. If we let kids make bad decisions, they must be accompanied by the reprocussions and serious consequences. What will they learn later on if they get a slap on the hand now. The fact that one incident like this with the chain of events, suspension, moving from school to school may have compounded a problem that already existed. I feel for the parents, I really do, but if you have to look at the young man and dig deeper into it to truly get at what caused this. A descision by the school board, his peers, and even school administators didn't do it. All they did was enforce the policy. I will hold the line on zero tolerance.
Andi Burkhlder
7:21 pm on Sunday, February 27, 2011
I totally agree with FFX County Resident. The policies are there to protect the students, staff and even the parents. Every FCPS student is required to sign the student handbook at the beginning of each year which clearly outlines the rules and consequences. Why are we blurring the lines here? To make sure everyone feels special and happy all the time? What kind of disservice are we doing our children to make them think they are not responsible for their actions? The rules were simple and clearly laid out. Break the rules, face the consequences. What exactly do all these outraged people think is going to happen to kids when they get out in the real world and have to face the consequences to their actions? Like speeding or driving drunk? Are we going to make exceptions there too, just to make everyone feel good about themselves?
If the outcome of this had been that those drugs ended up injuring or killing another student, we would be having a VERY different conversation.
Lori K. Weinraub
10:10 pm on Sunday, February 27, 2011
Let't not forget these are still children. Is the goal here merely to punish or are we trying to help them make good decisions and learn from their mistakes? And what about the punishment fitting the crime? Just because the school board adopts a zero tolerance policy for so many things doesn't mean one size fits all. Three days suspension for using a cell phone? I've heard of kids getting suspended for taking a Midol or bringing a steak knife to cut their lunch. What's the lesson there? How was Nick Stuban helped by being suspended for so long and transferred away from his school, his friends, his team? The sad lesson I take away here is trust no one and get a good lawyer.
FFX County Resident
12:40 pm on Monday, February 28, 2011
Lori, I have to disagree. One size does fit all, especially in highschool. Teen kids are more than responsible enough to know right from wrong. If not, I blame the parents. The policy is there, students are very aware of the consequences and should be enforced by the parents/ guardians. Midol, prescription drugs- no excuse; how does another school official know that it's not a synthetic drug like X. Drugs come in a variety of shapes and colors. Teachers are not drug experts and aren't apt to knowing the all the new "party" drugs or prescriptions out there. Students need to make admin staff aware that they need prescription meds on hand if there is a medical issue. Knives in the lunchroom; There are forks, knives, and spoons available for the children at school. I find it hard to believe that a student is having filet mignon for lunch that requires a ginsu 2000 cutlery device. The student in this story broke the rules, enough said. He had consequences. School, team, friends? Those were his consequences. He could've adapted and overcome. He would grown up a bit quicker than most his age if so, but, something else drove him to the point of ending his own life. I totally disagree that a school policy did. Calling in question to hire a lawyer is wrong. Saying that, causes one to think the board and folks are civily or criminally wrong. And of course as soon as one walks in the door, it starts to eat away the tax payers' dollars of this county to hold stance on a defense.
Lori K. Weinraub
1:08 pm on Monday, February 28, 2011
Seems we disagree on every point, Fairfax County resident, as you see the world in black and white and I see gray. But you never know when you or your loved ones will need a little compassion. As a mother, my heart breaks for the Stuban family. How can you not imagine a 15-year-old being broken by being torn away from school and friends and watching their mother deteriorate before their eyes? I know I would move heaven and earth to protect my child in a situation like this and if it means hiring a lawyer to advise me, so be it.
Annonymous
9:14 pm on Thursday, March 3, 2011
Unfortunately there are too many people like FFX County Resident on the school board. Did you read the detailed account of the case in the Washington Post? Suspensions are averaging 20 days - that is excessive. Expulsion for a legal substance is excessive. These are children - kids screw up - it is part of growing up. There need to be consequences for actions, but they should not be meant to destroy a child. FFX Count needs to seriously revise their disciplinary policies.
FFX County Resident
9:34 am on Friday, March 4, 2011
Ouch, a poke in the eye! First, I resent being compared to members on the school board. They have provided many bad decisions to this county, and I ensure I see further than the enclosed box those folks live in. I do see the world as black and "right", (that was pun, not meant to be derogatory). In my preteen years, I watched by brother being shuffled from school to school and many times expelled for doing stupid things.... spitballs, pocket knives on campus, tipping desk, and the list goes on and on. I know what the system does to kids as changes occur. My brother finally hit rock bottom and HE realized he was going no-where in life by doing what he did. He grew up, and fast. Yes, there were underlining circumstances that lead to his behaviors and dumb decisions, and it hit him like a rock. He attempted suicide twice...once I tackled him off the bridge and we both broke our arms. We laid in the hospital crying about life in general and how it wasn't worth this much pain. We blamed every teacher, administrator, and school policies for his behavior. All it took was a little verbal guidance from a counsler to get to the bottom of it. He was acting out because of the lack of support at home, cravy attention, and parenting issues. So...the bottom line, if you live within the guidlines laid out no matter who sets them and learn right and wrong from the start (starting at home), they will be no gray area to consider. That's when folks try to push the envelope.
FFX County Resident
9:54 am on Friday, March 4, 2011
Now, don't get me wrong, I do feel for the family, I truly do, and I express my sincere condolences, but there is more to the underlining issue of the school policy driving him to the unthinkable. Again, why on earth would he seek out a substance that could harm him, or even kill him. Was he craving more attention, did he have issues of a broken relationship, was it his family and medical issues surrounding them, peer pressure? Were there signs before hand that this was going to occur. I say yes, there always is and I can speak from experince, but with Nick, we may never know. But, holding the line and stance on the current policy in place did not cause this tragic moment. Poor decisions and the consequences did. He and every student knows the consequences. you would think that every parent does too if they read and sign the begininning of year documents sent home when school starts. Ignorance and gray areas shouldn't be an excuse. what will kids learn if they know thay can get away with it, with a slap on the hand? Something to think about- from another poster and confirmed, I work with LEAs, "JWH-0118" is synthetic marijuana (stronger than the original), and on 11/24, the DEA put a 1-year temporary ban (effective 12/24/10) on it while official studies are conducted. There is no question in anyone's minds as to what the verdict will be, and it is already banned in most of the EU. This is very different than children being kicked out of school for advil."
Halcyon
10:53 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2011
Are you implying that all kids are bad and will not learn their lessons if caught? I guess you don't believe in second chances for these kids. What if those kids who really cared about their academics do stupid things on whatever circumstances, should those kids really be smite into expulsion? There needs to be a thorough investigation before whatever punishment is administered. I am astounded by your ignorance of not knowing why the child committed suicide. I read Nick Stuban's background, good student, well rounded, participants in clubs. So he brings an unknown substance to school and he gets expulsion. He regretted his action so much, he knows he can't do anything about it, he misses his friends, his school, that he committed suicide. Here I see a child with great potential, but then ruined due to people with their "black and white" views. Yes, Nick needs an appropriate punishment and for those kids with repeated offense needs harsher ones, but not a death sentence. There are kids who really care about their academics, and then to be expelled, they rather die. I have great respect for those kids, why live if your chance of success at life is ruined by some old gits.
And your "black and right views", you got to be kidding me. Your view of right is simply unjust.