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Parents Push for FLES, Increase in Teacher Pay at Budget Hearing

Forty-six speakers addressed the School Board on Monday night about Superintendent Jack Dale's proposed budget.

 

Increasing pay for teachers and education support workers, funding foreign-language programs, and improving conditions at Falls Church High School were just a handful of issues raised by Fairfax County residents during the School Board’s public hearing on the $2.4 billion budget proposal Monday night.

“Public education and public educators are under attack in this budget process and in the larger education picture, we need your strong leadership,” said Michael Hairston with the Fairfax Education Association, who was one of many to advocate on behalf of reduced class sizes and offering more compensation to teachers for the hours they work.

Forty-six people addressed the board to ask the members to carefully consider their decisions regarding what to cut from the budget. The Parent Advocacy Handbook became a hot topic during the hearing, with many parents calling it a resource they felt should be funded and made widely available.

The most popular topics of the night included items already included in the budget, such as increases for teachers and more support for custodians and other FCPS service workers. The proposed budget allocates $0.4 million for salary adjustments to custodial staff, $42 million for step increases for eligible employees and $36.6 million for a two-percent market scale adjustment for all employees.

Many testified custodians are stretched too thin with more work than their staff can handle and urged the board to consider the effect increases in enrollment would have on an already overexerted staff.

“We cannot add students to the schools and expect a need for custodial staff to stay the same or go down,” said Dennis Wilson, a bricklayer with FCPS who spoke on behalf of the FEA Education Support Professionals.

Steve Greenburg with the Fairfax County Federation of Teachers drew applause from the crowd when he spoke in favor of the market-scale adjustment and step increase.

“Our teachers are overdue… we can’t attract and retain the best teachers to service our schools if this pattern continues,” Greenburg said.

“Teachers work long, hard hours and they deserve to get decent pay for what they do,” said Ralph Cooper, who echoed Greenburg’s sentiments and also passionately championed the need for pre-K to help close the achievement gap.

Some speakers were critical of the budget process and suggested each member have a full-time representative to help them with their duties as members of the board. Others urged the board to be more transparent with the budget and establish priorities to help taxpayers have a fuller picture of where taxpayer money is spent.

“We’re paying high taxes for low achievement,” said Arthur Purves, president of the Fairfax County Taxpayers Alliance, who argued it is unnecessary to raise salaries in order for FCPS to be competitive.

Lolita Mancheno-Smoak, former candidate for the School Board and member of the Coalition of the Silence, asked the board to consider analyzing programs before deciding whether it has value.

“Give yourselves a chance to ask whether a program is delivering cost effective results,” Mancheno-Smoak said.

Edison High School freshman Marcia Cunning was one of the first speakers to ask the board to keep benefits for parent liaisons in the budget. Cunning said people like her mother, who is a parent liaison, help families get the attention and help they need when no one else can.

“Everything parent liaisons do benefit families, school staff, and the community… it’s sad that all the things parent liaisons do benefit so many others, and yet, they have no benefits provided to them by FCPS,” Cunning said.

A group of parents and students, including former School Board member Tina Hone, stood silently and held signs that read “We support benefit for parent liaisons” whenever someone spoke in favor of the group. 

Hone, who spoke on behalf of the Coalition of the Silence, urged the board to invest in expanded learning opportunities and suggested “fixing the pipleline” to create more diversity at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology, which she called a “segregated school."

Students like Laura and Arthur Haneline, who introduced themselves in French, asked the board to keep the Foreign Language in Elementary School (FLES) program. Columbia Elementary School parent Alex Krezel asked the board to ensure those programs are fully funded and distributed throughout the pyramids.

Parents and students at Falls Church High School (FCHS) testified about the deteriorating conditions of the school and mentioned sinks and toilets covered in trash bags, calling the building unfit for its high school population. Kristin Haynes said she was “incredibly disappointed when that flawed Capital Improvement Program” passed with no mention of FCHS and the state of the facilities for those students with physical disabilities.

“These disabled children are already dealing with life circumstances most of us cannot fully fathom,” Haynes said, adding that students are parked in aisles of auditoriums and unable to attend after-school games because of locked handicap accessible bathrooms.

The School Board will vote on the advertised budget on Thursday, Feb. 9. For a full calendar of the budget, click here.

Related Topics: Fairfax County Public Schools and fairfax county public schools budget

Nein Juan Juan

9:41 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Except for the last few years, our teachers have received regular COLA increases as well as annual step increases. They are well paid compared to other jurisdictions. I do believe teachers generally work very hard and they have a difficult job but throwing money at the issue does not improve education. The budget increases we have seen over the years have not made our education system better, partially because the schools do not put the money towards education. One problem is the large number of administrators at each school.

20 years ago a typical high school had one principle and maybe two or three vice principles, depending on the size of the school. Now there are probably ten administrators at a typical school and they do less work than in years past. I taught at three County High Schools in the last decade and all of them discouraged sending a problem student to administrators. Oh, I'm sorry, there is no such thing as a problem student - classroom management is a teacher problem - as we would hear often. Consequently, teachers are spending way too much time dealing with disruptive students at the expense of the other students.

Another problem is that teachers do not have enough time to teach, grade, and prepare lessons. This could be helped by getting rid of many useless meetings - often required by new programs every year that serve no other purpose than to pad an administrator's resume.

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Groovis Maximus

6:29 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

I'll bet our princiPALs have lots of principles. I hope you haven't been teaching English for the last decade.

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Kathy Keith

6:51 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Just remember: the principal is your "pal"!

Michele

10:12 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

The biggest problem I see, and not just in Fairfax county, but everywhere., is that many teachers do not have classroom management skills, as in they do not know how to get the respect of the students and maintain control of the classroom. Young teachers have told me that is the most challenging part of being a new teacher, and that they have felt "thrown to the wolves" without these skills. Why is more training, such as Mandt (not the physical interaction side of it, rather the interpersonal side of it) not mandatory for all school professionals??

Having skills such as these would change the whole dynamic of behavior issues, including bullying, that our schools now face....

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R MCQ

6:19 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Teachers have one of the toughest jobs out there. They spend 8 hours educating our children at school, then several more hours each night grading papers, creating lesson plans, and dealing with other miscellaneous administrative tasks (all of this without receiving over time). They are rarely supported by parents and are the first blamed when a child doesn't succeed. As also mentioned above by Nein, they are expected to attend training sessions and implement programs while receiving no additional time, pay, or support.

I know several young teachers with masters degrees that haven't received a raise since they began teaching several years ago. I am a high school graduate without a college degree and I make more money while working less hours than they do. This is just wrong. As a county, our most precious asset is our children. We need to put their best interest first.

Maybe one of the reasons the teachers Michele has mentioned above don't know how to control their classrooms are because of the mass amount of administrative work placed on the teachers. Teaching is no longer viewed as the craft that it once was and has instead become a rigorous schedule of teaching to the test. If more parents backed and supported our teachers and were more involved with our schools (and their children) maybe the behavior issues and bullying wouldn't be such a problem and our teachers could focus on TEACHING. Give the teachers more pay! They deserve it!

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Michele

8:27 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Let's face it, I have attempted to be an involved, but not overbearing parent for my son's whole school career . That means emailing teachers, offering to volunteer in the classroom, library, PTA, etc. Most teachers that my son has had want little interaction. Many will not return calls or emails. It is hard to be involved and support teachers when they will not communicate. I know more parents would put the effort out if they felt that the teachers did actually want the support that they complain about not having....

When I lived in southwestern VA, the first school my son attended had a policy that teachers must attend 2 PTA meetings per year. The principal or a vice principal was at every meeting. That school had an average of 75 parents at each PTA meeting (total enrollment was under 400 students). Parents were regular fixtures at the school. Here, when my son was in LTES (enrollment around 800), it was amazing to have 10 parents show for a PTA meeting..... I wonder why???

And I totally agree that teachers need to be MUCH higher paid, BTW!

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judith LOTHER

9:24 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

Michele,
I don't like to make assumptions, but it sounds like you may be a stay-at-home mom. With the horrendous commute to D.C. or other environs where one may work, it is oftentimes impossible to make it to PTA meetings without taking time off from work. All you need is a traffic accident or some metro incident and you've missed the meeting. Also, not all teachers live near the schools in which they teach. Many of them have families they need to go home to. I grew up in a small town and the teachers and parents were more visible because they had the time.

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Michele

1:55 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

Judith, I don't disagree that it is challenging to be at PTA meetings, but you can't tell me that out a schools with 800+ students, having 10 parents show up to most meetings is really right either. For a long time when my son was little, I was self-employed and by necessity worked mostly evening. no work = no pay when self employed! I still made it to at least 3-4 meetings over the course of the school year.... Why? Because it was a priority for me.... And as for not living near the schools that they teach at, I totally understand, but would attending one meeting a year even hurt?

R MCQ

10:29 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012

@Michele that's really too bad that you've had this experience. I have never heard of a teacher not responding to a parent like that.

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Michele

2:00 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

@ R MCQ - my son has currently been having some health issues that are affecting his attendance at school.... out of the 7 teachers and guidance counselor I emailed to update last Thursday, I have heard back from 2. I asked them if there was any additional work he needed to be doing in addition to what is on Blackboard, and have no reply either way... A quick note yes or no would really be helpful....

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R MCQ

2:17 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

@Michele, that sounds extremely frustrating. Has the school office provided you with any additional means of contacting your son's teachers? Wouldn't it be nice if all teachers had assistant's who could handle the administrative tasks (like responding to emails) for them?

Amelie Krikorian

6:59 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

@RMCQ -- you're right about the ridiculous number of meetings. Next week I have a two hour meeting during the "half day Monday", which is supposed to be for planning and material preparation. One of my co-workers has to be at three before-school meetings next week and none of them have anything to do with what she does because she's in Special Ed. I myself have one before school meeting. Plus when you're in Special Ed, you have IEP meetings for your students, some of which can take not only 10 hours or more of preparation work but six or eight hours of meetings -- per student! Needless to say this takes a teacher out of the classroom for all those hours which affects all the students. Far too many meetings are being held over issues that could be settled by email!

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Kathy Keith

9:05 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

Gatehouse personnel have to justify their existence: paperwork and meetings for teachers in order for them to have something to do......

Mike Kane

10:10 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012

Schools are in total disrepair, class sizes are at all time highs (1st grade has no less than 27 per student at my girlfriend's school), but meanwhile the Gatehouse palace floors stay polished. And people wonder why we have a funding crisis.

One solution to the these problems would be a school voucher program that allowed schools to compete for students. This would result in less administrative overhead, most likely lower operating costs for the schools, and most definitely higher quality education. Also, some families would choose to send their children to online learning acadamies thus reducing class size at traditional schools. Vouchers would also increase vocational, music options for parents if they so choose.

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LAPINEX REX

6:01 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

There is truth in the old saying "You get what you pay for''.Why is it that the greatest country on the planet comes in behind Finland, Germany,France etc. in the areas of math and science? ?? Inexcusable! We need to stop increasing class sizes and give teachers the time to plan .The students need a routine that is not constantly interrupted with someone's ''feather-in-the cap" project .Our distinguished Secretary of Education(Mr Duncan)travels the world to experience other forms of educational systems to better ours .However, the answer lies in the RESPECT accorded to educators in the USA. We award Pro athletes millions of dollars to entertain us ,yet we cringe when public servants request a cost of living increase ? Pay them what they are worth !! Paying higher starting salaries for teachers (i.e. 50k) will attract a better pool of applicants who will hold our students to higher standards . In this society, MONEY = RESPECT . Require a Master's degree in their SUBJECT area (FIVE years after obtaining their b.a/b.s degree) INSTEAD of a degree in Education with a "minor" in their subject area and hire Administrators that can stand up to helicopter parents whose children do not perform and who divert their parental obligations to school nurses and classroom teachers . Other countries pay their teachers very well for a 20 - 25 hr work week and the results reflect that . WE HAVE TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT EDUCATING OUR YOUTH...THEY ARE THE FUTURE OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY !!!

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Kathy Keith

7:43 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012

Our country spends more on education that just about any other country in the world. We have spent fifty years pouring money into education for poor children with sorry results. Yes, it takes money--but where is the money going? Probably into the bureaucracy and buildings like Gatehouse. That is the problem. The money is not getting to the teachers and the classrooms. Yes, we need "needs based" staffing for poor children--but why isn't it working? Is the additional "staff" actually teaching or just requiring more paperwork and documentation? Let the teachers teach!
Don't worry about paying the "great" teachers more--it is too hard to define that, but get rid of the sorry teachers--that is not hard to define. The principals, staff, parents and students all know who the sorry teachers are. As far as Mr. Duncan's "race to the top"--here is a tip: education is not a race. Why should kids in a school that lacks a competitive principal suffer? And, Mr. Rex, one of the reasons so many of these countries perform better on test scores in math and science is that the lower scoring students in Europe are put into trade schools at very early ages. They don't go to academic high schools. I would imagine that is true in many parts of the country.

Catherine

9:49 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

FLES is an issue of inequity just like the Full-Day Kindergarten issue. If FCPS cannot afford to give it to all students, it shouldn't offer it. There are plenty of other resources parents can take advantage of themselves in our community for foreign language services. These dollars instead should be used to increase teacher compensation and to immediately lower class size. School Board Chair Jane Strauss should be held to her campaign commitment to do these two things first. Public education services should be equitably doled out. It is time to end the education services by zip code and the practice of School Board members doling out goodies like foreign language to their favorite schools who support those candidates during re-election season!

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Michele

10:56 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

If the school system had more money than it needed, class sizes were kept under 20 students per teacher, resources were abundant, teachers were paid decent salaries and students were thriving, things like providing FLES wouldn't bother me. But until all of the great points made by some many are addressed, these types of programs need to be cut in favor of improving the schools for all!

BTW - I want a "like" for patch! :)

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Kathy Keith

11:25 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

I agree. FLES is a "nice to have" program--but does it really have the value claimed?
How do the classroom teachers feel about it? Is it really a good use of time?
I have read the articles in the local papers extolling its virtues--but I think the facts would bely the value. Children will not learn a foreign language when it is only taught 1 hour per week (two sessions of 30 minutes),
There is no follow up in the secondary schools with some of the languages (Chinese and Arabic are not taught in the "follow on" middle school-or high school.-There is no consistency.
This is a "nice to have" program---it does not bring the value claimed. I know lots of parents like it--but they are deceiving themselves if they really believe their child will learn the language with one hour instruction per week.
Some high schools in FCPS have great difficulty in sustaining and staffing their foreign language programs--fix that first!
Also, FCPS has five professionals in the World Language dept and one assistant--yet they let the schools have struggling teachers.
I hope the school board will do some serious data evaluation on this. I know that there are studies that show it has value--but what about in FCPS? Is the value worth the price? I think the answer is "No!"

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Catherine

4:03 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

If the School Board does decide to fund FLES and expand it to more schools, then the first schools to get the foreign language program should be the schools who were last to get Full Day Kindergarten! That is only fair!

Scott in Fairfax

11:08 am on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Reduce the number of unnecessary administrators (regulation and paper-pushers) at the central administration building on Gatehouse Road! Yes, pay teachers more. Yes, reduce some of the unneeded credentials required to be able to teach in the classroom.

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