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Why are Trains Blaring Their Horns at Night?

Dozens of people in Alexandria, Huntington, Kingstowne and elsewhere have complained about noise.

 

Residents in Alexandria and surrounding areas may want to buy earplugs. The sound of train horns blaring at night will continue for a few more weeks.

CSX spokesman Bob Sullivan told Patch Thursday the horns are related to track work that CSX began earlier this week. The horns are part of a safety precaution taken to protect workers who are on or near the tracks.

“It’s part of our routine maintenance of our 21,000 miles of railroad in the eastern United States, and they are replacing cross ties and doing some other work,” Sullivan said.

Dozens of residents have complained on various online forums about hearing trains blow their hornes with unusual frequency late at night. Some residents told Patch the noise is preventing them from sleeping well.

"It's frustrating when my 5 year old (who has to get up at 7 and go to school) can't sleep, and my 1 year old keeps waking because of it," said resident Melissa Martinez in an email to Patch.

A post on the Kingstowne Patch Facebook page got almost three dozen comments from residents who are disturbed by the horns. Discussions also have popped up on the Old Town Moms Yahoo group and the Huntington Community Group page on Facebook this week.

The rail work will continue through November along the CSX tracks down to Woodbridge. 

West End Alexandria Patch Editor Rachel Leonard contributed to this report.

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Lee Hernly

4:07 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

So nice of CSX to let people know in advance...

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Leslie Perkins

4:16 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

Trains mostly sound their horns to warn of their arrival. And to let people and animals get out of their way. I grew up in Alexandria when people would blow their horns to announce dinner to their wives.

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Lee Hernly

10:54 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

However Leslie, these horns blare 10-15 times coming through Alexandria rather than the two times they normally do. You must not live near the tracks.

Kristy

5:45 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

I am certainly thankful for the track maintenance and keeping their workers safe. Their workers belong to somebody - someone's Dad, Mom, Brother, Sister - the alternative could be disastrous! I'll just keep some white noise going in my room until they are done. Thanks Patch for the 411.

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Glenn Baker

7:27 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

I can live with a few wake ups if it is kto keep workers safe. Its only for another what 30-45 days or so? Not ideal, but understandable. Freight rail is one of the success stories of US industry which doesn't get touted much, nice to see them reinvesting in keeping their tracks maintained

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Lee Hernly

10:55 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

The only problem is these horns are blaring overnight - mainly near 3:00am.

M S

8:06 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

Everyone needs to invest in earplugs. Cheap solution.

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AND

9:17 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

No, propper coordination and communication between the railroad and employees working on the ground should be in place. Additionally, trains are not quiet. If you are on or near a track you can hear them. I live at least a mile from the tracks near Franconia-Springfield and I hear them approaching without the air horns. If they insist on blowing the horns how about once or twice quickly every few miles? Constantly blowing those lound horns within earshot of 150000-200000 is rediculous and uncalled for!!

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Joseph M.

9:36 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

I lean towards your view. Should we all honk our horns when driving through a construction zone? Work zones are very dangerous for road construction workers too.

What if the STOP/SLOW sign holder on a road construction crew also blew a train whistle every time a car was approaching?

Considering how far a train whistle carries, and the number of people affected, perhaps they should work on mitigating the danger another way.

Mark Williams

9:23 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

Train signals, including audible bells and whistles, are required by law. And they should be. Lots of little localities have banned train whistles (which is a difficult thing to do, requiring lots of local and Federal approvals). What happens? People -- including railroad workers, vehicles, and animals get hit by trains. We should take the whistles any day.

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Joseph M.

9:39 pm on Thursday, October 11, 2012

For what it's worth, here's what the City's website says:

The trains are very loud. Do they have to blow their steam whistles?
The City of Alexandria cannot regulate train noise due to Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and Interstate Commerce Commission (ICC) regulations (Sec. 11-5-6-6, 8). However, construction on railroad property is regulated by Sec. 11-5-4 (b)15: "Construction Devices and Power Equipment."

http://alexandriava.gov/tes/oeq/info/default.aspx?id=3840

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Marsden West

6:31 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

The ICC was abolished more than 15 years ago. The regulations may still exist under a new name, but this still appears to be sloppy work of the city government...

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Rumpled Apron

3:00 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

Only in the DC metropolitan area would someone instantly be able to tell us the status of an OSHA reg. Well done!

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Mark Williams

10:11 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

The ICC still exists in the form of the USDOT Surface Transportation Board. All rail-related commercial, rate, corporate, and service authority is held by the STB, and rail safety authority has been vested in the USDOT Federal Railroad Administration for decades. The City's web site is correct; the STB regulations were the ICC regulations, and they are still valid and substantively unmodified. Their adoption notices still say ICC.

AND

12:54 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

There is a train blasting its horn right now. I've been hearing it for about the last 5-10 minutes. Is this really necessary at 1:00AM?

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Andie Samosas

12:56 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

This is ridiculous! What about those of us who have to get up early in the morning for work but are awakened by these loud horns at midnight or later? There has to be a better communication system in place. This is not the 1800s.

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AND

1:13 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

There's another one. Just blasting the horn at 1:10AM for all 200000 residents within about a 5 mile area to wake up. I hope those guys who are working hard at 1:10am were able to get off the tracks in time. This particular train has only blown its horn about 30 times, I can only hope that was enough to alert the construction crews, at 1:10am!

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BP

2:10 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

When everybody is whistle whipped into submission the railroads rob the towns on the BS equipment too hush the horns making way for the crew-less GPS ran train hid behind the curtains. Anything with RR you have to follow the money trail. When the railroads have the country rail-locked enough Our gates will become tow gates.

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Kathy Zatt

7:38 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

I am just satisfied that it's not just me thinking the trains have been louder than usual lately! I keep talking to my husband about it and his reply is the same...nothing has changed...we've always been able to hear the train whistles. Well, not like this!!!! It's not only late at night either! They seem to get really loud starting around 7pm. Glad I'm not going nuts!

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Yeah, it's us

7:49 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

We live 200 yards from the track. The only time we might hear trains - or their horns - is when we're awake. Most of the 70+ trains passing daily go unnoticed. We're good with that.

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Joan A.

8:12 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

With the various types of wireless communication available, why can't the workers and train engineers communicate wirelessly? There are workplace hearing protection earmuffs available with this technology.

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Kendall Henson

9:44 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Due to federal law, the engineer can not use any electrical communication device except the radio in the cab of the engine which he does use to communicate with the foreman in charge of the work gang.

Pamela

8:37 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

I have lived here my whole life and have always heard the trains. The tracks have been here longers that most of you have been alive. Deal with it. Stop winning. People need to stop getting so upset when things are excactly as they would like them.

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AND

9:48 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

There is an obvious difference in things not being exactly as you would like them and trains blowing air horns all night long. Exactly the way I want would like them is no noise pollution. However, the tracks were here before my house (in Island Creek) and I accept the occasional train noise. In this case its simply excessive and uncalled for what they are doing. A more acceptable and reasonable solution is 1 or 2 quick horns (if they have to be blown at all) rather than blowing them constantly for 10 minutes. There is absolutely no logical reason that an extremely loud train would have to blow its horn 30-40 times to pass through a construction zone at 1:15am. Especially considering that the horn is the last level in an alert system that already includes a detailed train schedule, GPS and direct communication between the train operators and construction workers. With all of those other communications in place the constant horns are ridiculous.

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Pamela

2:02 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

I knew I liked you Kendall.

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Kendall Henson

2:20 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

@ AND, you have no clue how the railroad operates. There is a reason why trains have to blow their horns, day or night. 1 or 2 quick blast of the horn will not do when the work order that a train has to pass through is 5 miles long. The horn is not the last level in the alert system on a train, it's the first. Everyone in the long work gang doesn't have a radio and they are operating a loud piece of machinery.

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Kendall Henson

2:21 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

...oh, and I like you too Pamela.

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Pamela

6:15 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

You people realize you are talking to someone who knows the rail road. You get them Kendall.

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Kendall Henson

6:26 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Yes Pamela, for 34 years I have worked for the railroad, the past 27 as an engineer.

JE

8:44 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Whereas I'm supportive of necessary track work, I'm not supportive in the least bit of train horns blaring into ungodly hours of the early morning. There has to be an alternative to safety precautions beside this. I live on Seminary Hill (miles from the tracks) and could hear it loud and clear at 12:30 a.m. I assume because there is no real sound buffer living higher up. I'm extremely sympathetic to those who live near the tracks and think that CSX should provide earplugs to the City of Alexandria. I sure will be investing in a pair tonight.

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Kendall Henson

10:10 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

The railroad has been there since 1834. Everyone living in and around Alexandria, know there are trains that run through the city. Trains are required to sound their horns when approaching and passing work forces along the tracks as well as reduce their speed, which will take them longer to pass the workers thus more horn blowing. If the engineer doesn't comply by this rule, he could lose his job for 30 days or more. So, those of you who are complaining, stop and think that a person could lose their job or one could lose their life all because of a horn .

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Bea Porter

11:04 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

I live a block from the trains and metro, I hear the metro announcing stops, I hear the tremble of the tracks, sometimes I can feel the vibration and see items in my house vibrate. I love the trains, I love to hear the whistles. I don't have AC so my windows are open almost all year, I love to hear the whistle during the night, it gives me an idea of how much longer I have to sleep. I have small children, they love the sounds of the trains also, and they never wake up hearing the whistles. It kind of lulls them. Its not much longer until the construction is done.

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Martha Hudenburg

11:20 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

Martha
I understand why they are doing this ...but...what about people like me that have sleeping problems... If I wake up I can't go back to sleep that easyly it was 6 o' clock and I was still awake!!! I will go crazy if this continue like that... There has to be another way to solve this problem for the community!!!......

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Pamela

2:05 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

It's call going to your doctor for sleeping pills. Or better yet take a vacation. Why is your sleeping problem more important then the works on the line????

Leah

11:28 am on Friday, October 12, 2012

I am all for keeping workers safe on the tracks, but my goodness, there MUST be another way than just sounding a train horn excessively in the middle of the night right next to a city suburb!

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Kendall Henson

12:52 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

There is no other way. The horn and bell on a locomotive are the only two things that can warn people around the tracks. The reason it's in the middle of the night is because there are fewer trains that will pass through the work order.

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AND

2:12 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

Kendall: "There is no other way"? Really?? Maybe that's true when you take away various levels of direct audio communication between the train operations, operations center and those on the ground, as well as GPS that tracks trains locations, plus the fact that trains are already loud without the horn.

Nevertheless, why not 1 or 2 horns for all of the remaining work crews who left their communications radio, cell phone and train schedules at home. Does it really require to be blown 30-50 times to get through a construction zone? Those horns can carry for over 5 miles!

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Kendall Henson

4:03 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

CSX operating rule 14. The engine horn must be sounded at all places where required by rule or law or to prevent accidents. The sound of the horn should be distinct, with intensity and duration proportionate to the distance the signal is to be conveyed. Rule 15. The engine horn will be sounded and engine bell rung by trains approaching and passing roadway workers, identified by white or orange hard hats.

McBrinn

12:52 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

I came in to say what Bra did. I love the sound and I especially love feeling the low rumble when a heavy string of coal cars pass.

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J marks

3:03 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

For those who don't work for a living around heavy machinery. They are most likely already wearing earplugs next to heavy equipment with generators etc. if the workers had to stop everytime a train comes by, it would take 5 times longer. The track safety watches on behalf of the crew and his/ her sole focus is on safety, while the crew focuses on the work at hand. Trains are more dangerous than cars on highway because they have less options , they pretty much can't stop or steer clear. The horn alerts those who do have options to mame sure they are out of way. To put your self in thier shoes, approach a busy intersection with headphone or earplugs in and try to cross in impeded. You can't do it, even with traffic lights, crosswalks and signs. Same reason schools have crossing guards. Not to police the kids, but to watch the large moving metal objects. Federal law mandates audible warnings for railroad crossings and other potential unsafe conditions. For all your annoyance, feel for the folks who live on towns where tracks cross every street along main, that's a lot of horn blowing

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Leslie Hagan

5:04 pm on Friday, October 12, 2012

I have lived a block away from Potomac Yard for 36 years. I would give anything to hear the old train yard noises in lieu of the rerouted traffic going up and down my street at all hours, not to mention the fact that the wretched new hump back Monroe Ave bridge now carrys the Rt 1 traffic sounds all over the eastern part of Del Ray when before we didn't hear it. You all are complaining about a temporary situation, we here face a lifetime of constant noise. Live with it.

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Martha

11:16 am on Sunday, October 14, 2012

Thankfully there have not been the 30 to 40 blasts from the train horns for the past few nights. I appreciate the need for safety but due to medical issues, it is hard for me to get back to sleep after being awakened by the horns. I don't like to take pills and any sleeping pill takes a while to work. Just glad that the horns have not sounded loud enough to bother everyone. I don't know what CSX has done but everyone is sleeping better. We live about 1 mile from the tracks and can hear the normal horns which are not a bother.
Martha

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Stacy

12:29 pm on Monday, October 15, 2012

I live in Island Creek, about 1.5 miles from the tracks as the flow cries. I am a bit annoyed by it, but I guess it's for safety's sake. But it is a LOT of blaring... short little bursts, 10-20 of them each time a train comes thru.

Though, not half as bad as Fort B and that horn they got a year or so back, that played Reveille at 0630 and taps at 2300. Thank God they turned down the volume on those.

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JJ

12:40 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

If you didn't look at where the train tracks were - and the rich history of Del Ray/Alexandria trains, before living here, then the fault is yours. Invest in better acoustical isolation in your home, white noise generators or something that does the same job, and/or invest in good earplugs. I chose to live a mile away rather than a couple blocks away, and I can't leave my windows open on nice nights but the noise is completely gone with a fan and double pane glass.

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Lynn Trundle

11:47 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Uh, no, the fault is not necessarily ours, JJ, because in my area (Franconia Rd. near Fleet Drive), no train horns blew EVER until Dec. 2006. I did check out this area, since it's fairly near the train tracks, before I bought my townhouse. I parked outside and waited until a train went by. Although it was pretty loud, I realized I was outside, and also I figured it would be much like an airplane going overhead. Some temporary noise, but acceptable. After I moved in (July 2004), I really didn't notice the trains going by much. It was only when they started blowing their horns every time they went through this area that it became a problem. Also, there seem to be more trains going through here than there used to be. I have complained several times to CSX over the years and to the fed. gov., to no avail. I have gotten a different explanation each time of why CSX is blowing these horns, after the first one (being near an at-grade crossing, which is not true here) didn't hold up. When that wasn't the answer, they came up with something else. Believe me, if I could afford to move, I would. The basic issue here--aside from the temporary track work which means even worse horn-blowing than normal--is that CSX can do what it wants because no one controls them. So, they will do what they want.

Larry McDorchester

8:41 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

I think that the sound of a train passing is very romantic.

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Joseph M.

9:19 pm on Thursday, October 18, 2012

If something was, it shall ever be? There's no changing how the way things are done?

A train whistle at one point was the only way to warn long distances. It's the 21st century, perhaps all the workers can wear headsets that block outside noise from the heavy equipment they are using, but sounds a loud tone to warn of coming trains. A loud horn every 5 seconds while the train travels miles through a work zone is not romantic.

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BP

1:19 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

So are the railroad look outs lame brains or what? What if everybody did the whistle thing around the work zone?

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SO

11:23 am on Friday, October 19, 2012

Some people had made such rude comments toward the community!, like "get better earplugs, change the acoustic of your house, go and see a doctor...." They had solutions for every one!. Nobody is complaining of regular sounds of the train.. we were used to that. We are talking about NOW not from a century ago.

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Kristy

8:13 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Since I won't be one to protest the sounds, I thought I'd offer a well intended solution that has been working for me. I am using a fan (pointed away from me since its cooler now) to block the noise and some inexpensive ear plugs that work really well. They are blocking all of the other sounds in the neighborhood too - barking dogs, late night neighbors, emergency vehicles. I too have trouble sleeping in general. I definitely need more vacations! HA HA! Here is a link to some great ear plugs that are also comfortable. Maybe they will work for others too. http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-MAX-1-plugs-Uncorded/dp/B0033YLEGO/ref=pd_sim_hpc_1

I've also used a sound machine too in the past with good results. Here is a link to the one I've used. http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-MAX-1-plugs-Uncorded/dp/B0033YLEGO/ref=pd_sim_hpc_1

These recommendations are well intended for those folks who may need a quick fix. I've tried many things over the years to drown out noises that keep me awake. (And everything keeps me awake!) It might be worth a try for a quick fix. If you try it, I hope they work for you.

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Kristy

8:15 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

The copy and paste for the sound machine didn't work as intended the first time and ended up a duplicate of the ear plugs. Here it is...
http://www.amazon.com/Conditioner-Marpac-formerly-Sleepmate-980A/dp/B000KUHFGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1350950382&sr=8-1&keywords=noise+mach

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Only

1:34 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

I live right next door to the PG plaza metro station and this is getting to be really bad. Every single night midnigth I mean they start with their so annoying horn! Is there something that can be done to stop this! They shoul put it on question 7 for next presidential elections! Ban those F. Horns!

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