Republicans Say Sheriff's Participation in Retirement Plan is Illegal
County Attorney has approved Barry's participation in the program
Fairfax Republicans are attacking Sheriff Stan Barry's participation in a county retirement plan with the launch of a new website.
Drop Stan Barry publicizes the sheriff's participation in the Deferred Retirement Option Program (DROP), a county retirement program Barry's critics say was not intended for elected public officials. Even if Barry can legally be in the program, Republicans say, DROP rules mean he is not eligible to run for re-election this November.
Under DROP, a county employee eligible for retirement can choose to continue working for three years. While they receive their usual salary and benefits, they also begin receiving the money they would have received if they retired. The money is sent to a retirement account, which the employee does not have access to until they leave government.
After the three-year DROP period ends, the employee must retire, according to a county document (PDF) explaining the program. The decision to enter the DROP program is irreversible, according to the document—exiting DROP would mean the end of employment with the county.
While he is currently accumulating DROP benefits, Barry told Patch he will stop receiving them and make sure they don't collect interest if he is re-elected. Even if his DROP participation makes him ineligible to run, Barry says he will retire, then return as sheriff without receiving a salary after his re-election.
"What I want to do is be re-elected sheriff," Barry said. "I’m not looking for any extra pay.”
The DROP Statute
Because Barry entered the program in 2009, Republicans say, he must leave office in early 2012, rather than run for another four-year term this November. Barry said he was not sure exactly when he entered the program.
"The county statute clearly says that at the end of three years, you must retire," said Anthony Bedell, the chairman of the Fairfax County Republican Committee. Bedell said this means that Barry cannot run as the Democratic candidate in November's election for sheriff.
Even if Barry did retire in 2012, his participation in DROP is not legal, according to Bedell. The Drop Stan Barry website features a video where members of the Board of Supervisors question whether elected officials like Barry should participate in DROP.
Bedell estimates that, according to a county retirement calculator, participating in DROP will bring Barry $436,230 after three years, in addition to his yearly salary and benefits.
"We thought on the basis of honor and fairness, we wouldn't be doing that," Mason District Supervisor Penny Gross (D) says on the video, referring to elected officials participating in DROP. The video was taken from a June Board of Supervisors meeting. Gross says on the video that the DROP law does not explicitly excluse elected officials, however. She did not respond to a request for comment.
"He is intentionally not abiding by the spirit of the law," Braddock District Supervisor John Cook (R) told Patch. After discussing DROP at the June meeting, Cook said, the supervisors discussed the issue in a closed session. While Cook would not say what happened in the session, no action has been taken by the supervisors against Barry or to limit elected officials from participating in DROP.
County Attorney Weighs In
Both Republicans and Barry agree that Fairfax County Attorney David Bobzien says that Barry can participate in DROP and legally run for office again, even though Republicans disagree with Bobzien on that point. Bobzien did not respond to a request for comment.
“Apparently, [the Supervisors] had a convincing argument from the county attorney,” Barry said.
Bedell insists that, even though Bobzien allows the campaign, Barry's participation in DROP is illegal.
“The county attorney is covering for the Democratic-majority Board, covering for the Democratic Sheriff." Bedell responded. "What a coincidence.”
Republicans have no grounds to criticize him, Barry said, because his Republican opponent, Bill Cooper, is also retired. Bedell said Cooper's retirement doesn't matter because he was not an elected official before his retirement and did not participate in DROP.
The Republicans plan to continue criticizing Barry's retirement plan, according to Bedell, with two more emails explaining the issue planned. He said the committee is also considering buying advertisements about the issue.
Matt Genkinger
8:05 am on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
This is a very serious matter, and one that costs all Fairfax County taxpayers directly. While I don't believe Sheriff Barry is breaking any laws, he should have been aware of the details. There is no excuse, and there should be no escape clause. Barry choose to enter DROP and now it is time for Fairfax County to DROP Barry.
Linda Bartlett
4:58 pm on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Either Stan Barry didn't read the fine print on the DROP contract, didn't understand the fine print and the obligation to retire three years after entereing the program, or just decided to ignore the rules thinking because he is a Democrat in Fairfax County he could blatantly rip off the tax payers and do as he p[leases. All three disqualify him from any elected office, particularly that of sheriff. Anyone who has even the least inclination for "good government" cannot possibly vote for this man.
ray vanneman
6:03 pm on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
I am a staunch Republican and find it VERY difficult any more to vote for the opposition, but I also can't stand grandstanding on non-issues no matter what side you're on. It is a far more serious concern to elect a Sheriff because he happens to be Republican, but thinks even legal behavior he disagrees with needs to be dealth with! Is Fairfax so soft on its citizens (and our imperfect kids) we want a get tough Sheriff that even wants to exert his brand of control over legal behavior too! This whole line of thinking REALLY scares me! In my Republican mind, law is very important - if you don't like the law, you change them - you don't attack people that live by them.
Edward Liberatore
5:42 pm on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Or you could just change the law?
Ed Williams
5:43 pm on Thursday, October 6, 2011
Interesting. Isn't there a Ray Vanneman in the Sheriff's Office? Financial guy. Right up there with the command staff, I believe. I'd say your outrage regarding grandstanding lacks credibility in this case. Shocking!
ray vanneman
1:38 am on Friday, October 7, 2011
If you know me then you know I am a staunch Republican and if you check with either campaign, you'll find out I think highly of the individuals on both sides. My personal opinion does not lack credibility or I would have hidden behind someone else's name. There are legitimate campaign issues that both have been expressed clearly on both sides - and then there's this grandstanding. It lowers the level of the discussion.
livinglife
6:31 pm on Monday, October 10, 2011
This is to Ray - whether a person is republican or democrat, this issue is really all about integrity and honoring a contract. Those of us who are in the DROP program understand clearly what the rules are and we MUST leave the county employment after 3 years. We sign a document indicating that we understand all the rules and regulations concerning DROP and we agree to abide by them. I don't care at all who is with what political party - what I want to see is that an individual carries with them their sense of right and wrong, integrity and knowing what is ethically the thing to do. Sheriff Barry chose to consider himself as above the rules of DROP and that is extremely bothersome to me. He has NEVER explained how he could run for another term as sheriff to his employees - we are finding out the same way everyone else is - in blogs and through the Cooper campaign. Maybe this is only important to those of us who work within the Sheriff's office and in the county, but I see a big problem with an individual enrolled in a program such as DROP who feels that he can simply ignore or make a "deal" with the county officials while the rest of us clearly understand what we signed up for and we know when we must make our exit from our county careers. It leads one to ask why the Sheriff signed up for DROP in the first place, knowing what the rules were. Had he just explained much of this to his employees, it might have made the Cooper allegations much less than they are.
Will Radle
10:53 pm on Monday, October 24, 2011
Common sense in local government is very important. As I said before at http://kingstowne.patch.com/articles/delegate-hugo-rep
An objective observation: the Board discussion on June 7 makes it very clear they did not intend for elected officials to be included in the Deferred Retirement Option Program (DROP) and yet they failed to exercise common sense. They knowingly did not include one simple sentence. County policies must match intent.
If re-elected, Barry will collect no retirement until he leaves county service. He will not be in the DROP program if re-elected. As Chairman, I will lead the Board to modify the program to exclude elected officials.
So, ironically partisans not only got it wrong, they got it backwards. If he is not re-elected Barry will get the benefits of DROP. Add this as one more reason to vote for Stan Barry in addition to his decades of service both as a Deputy Sheriff and as elected Sheriff.
Stan Barry has been at every agreed debate forum. His opponent has not attended one. It’s obvious who recognizes accountability to voters.
Please join me in voting for Stan Barry for Sheriff on Tues., November 8.
A. Will Radle, Jr. (I)
Independent Candidate for Chairman,
Fairfax County Board of Supervisors
FairfaxAdvocates@gmail.com
YouTube.com/WillRadle1
571-358-9711
Matt Genkinger
9:55 am on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
Mr. Radle,
This just about sums it up...
"After the three-year DROP period ends, the employee must retire[,]"
If Mr. Barry is an honorable man, which appears not be the case, he ineligible to serve another term. One either abides by the agreement they have entered, or they break the contract. If I break my contract with my current employer, not only are my benefits recouped, but I am terminated.
As someone running for political office, and not an insignificant office at that, why on Earth would you be advocating for Mr. Barry?
Regards,
Will Radle
2:13 pm on Tuesday, October 25, 2011
Please call me, "Will". Thank you for your excellent question. Have you noticed no one else has asked the BoS why they failed to exercise common sense, failed to include the simple sentence that would have prevented elected officials from participating? County policies must match intent.
Now, to directly answer your question. Sheriff Barry has done an honorable service in managing his duties. As a candidate, he has attended every debate forum in recognition of his accountability to voters. His opponent has not participated once. Stan Barry has done a good job and will continue to do a good job. If he had not, I would say throw the bum out. He is an honorable candidate, a decent fellow.
Finally, do you want to set it right or let him take the additional benefits of the program? I want to fix the incumbent chairman's mistake and make it right for taxpayers. That would be best. Don't you think?
I welcome your questions and constructive criticisms. One side note, there are no insignificant offices when serving the people of Fairfax County.
Thanks,
A. Will Radle, Jr.
Independent Candidate for Chairman,
Fairfax County Board of Supervisors
FairfaxAdvocates@gmail.com
youtube.com/WillRadle1